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Tickets and Reps

Discussion in 'HTL Social Groups' started by Syrin, Aug 29, 2012.

  1. Syrin Chief of Staff
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    We'll receive five (5) BOSS MODE (VIP as far as I can tell) tickets for the convention. While I'm sure there'll be time to explore, I think it's fair to say that whoever attends will probably spend most of their time manning the booth, handing out goodies, talking to people and generally representing HTL, i.e. working.

    It's important that we send representatives who are responsible, trustworthy and approachable, people who can really put across HTL's message and ideals. I'm not sure how best to do this so I wanted to open the floor to ideas.

    My thoughts originally were to give priority to those who donated, but I don't know really. All input is very welcome so that we can figure out the most useful and agreeable way to elect Reps.
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    I would say first and foremost the tickets should go to those that are chosen to operate the booth, and then the rest go to the top donors or maybe a raffle between all those that donated, no matter how much money they put up? I don't see 5 people being needed to operate the booth, in fact that sounds like too many. I guess it all comes down to how big the booth is which we will find out soon enough. On one hand handing them to the top donors is good idea, but on the other hand not everyone was able to donate a lot of money, so that is at the same time somewhat unfair. The raffle might be the best idea to distribute it amongst all who donated. Could also include those that helped rep the initiative or helped with ideas in the raffle.
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    Well I can say I won't be able to be anywhere near San Francisco anytime soon, if that helps narrow it down.
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    As a general rule of thumb with booths
    • You need three people manning it at any point in time, minimum. You will get swarmed at times. Sure, there will be lulls, but the more people you have there, the more chances you'll have to talk with the people who may be interested. If you can't reach to the people who are waiting to find out more about the booth within 30 seconds, they will move on.
      • Having more people will allow one person to take a break to stretch their legs and wander around. But expect to stay at the booth for most of the Con.
    • Have lots of goodies to attract people. People will not want to look at printouts. They will want to look at toys, neat business cards, cool trinkets, and other great things.
    • Make connections. Successful booths have things to do at the booth. It'll build an instant connection with the product. Find a way to get them to feel like they belong to the community. See if you can get a petition going about something important in the video game community. Something everyone can get behind... like Day One DLCs.
    • Taking booths apart sucks. There's no way around that. Be ready for that.
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  5. Syrin Chief of Staff
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    Yeah I was under the impression that if the booth could be manned by, say, three people, it gives people a chance to 'swap shifts' so they can have a look around, which seems like a positive thing.

    Thanks Michael, also some other great points. Any ideas along the lines of things to do or has any suggestions for neat goodies would be great!
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    There are companies out there that make cheap swag. We could do pens (always useful), buttons/pins, temporary tattoos, bookmarks...the trick is to pick something cheap enough where we can make a LOT of it. We could also do a raffle for bigger HTL merch like shirts, mugs, etc. Another idea I've seen is a prize wheel - people love those, and it does crowd control on swag hunters.

    I'd say give the tickets to the booth folks. Five seems like a lot but so is sitting at a table all day while there's a con happening around you. We could also have a person or two walking around advertising the booth to help boost traffic.
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    It does seem like we're going to need five people to work the booth, at least in rotation. So, let's get started by asking who would like to (and will be able to) attend the con as a HTL rep?

    If we end up with loads of volunteers we'll have to figure out a fair way of electing five, but I don't know how many people actually do have the time/money for this kind of thing.

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    I'll start this thing off: I'm able to volunteer. (Sidebar: I'll be travelling about on the west coast next summer if anyone nearby wants to have a beverage!)

    [Note: If you happen to want your own tickets that won't require you to work most of the time, you can actually donate to the Kickstarter for tickets: $30 gets you a regular 2-day badge and $50 gets you two regular 2-days badges, so it's pretty affordable! Bear in mind, you've only got like 6 hours left!]
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    I definitely volunteer to operate the booth. Count me in :D

    Since I work when I want and pick the days I work (unless it is a series of gigs, but again I pick when those start) my schedule is quite flexible to be able to attend something like this.

    In terms of money, I certainly can pay my own way whether it is driving out or flying.

    What would be nice however is to see a sheet with information such as average hotel prices, flight prices, car rental or taxi prices, things like that to help gauge the costs for people going even if they aren't manning the booth. Also bringing up such things as maybe one member drives out so that the booth people can car pool together instead of going their own ways to help save on money, or see about them staying in the same hotel and possibly getting discount rates since we are operating at the con. Such information would go a long way in helping us budget, however I know that I can make it out there regardless of whether that information is posted or not.
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    I definitely want to go to the con, but I am unable to commit at this time because I'm a graduating senior and what the future holds for me this summer has infinite possibilities... XD In other words, I have no idea where I will be or what I will be doing, but hopefully I'll be in a position to fly out there and attend. I'll also have to figure out badges because I missed the kickstarter badge memo earlier. Hopefully they'll sell more...

    However, if I am there, I will support HTL no matter if I'm actually manning the booth or not. I have quite a bit of experience manning booths, because I was the PR rep for my karate studio in high school (I sucked at teaching, but great with databases and talking to people, so that's what I did XD), so if I have to fill in for someone between shifts or whatnot, I can. I will not ask for a free badge because I can't commit, if I go it will be on my own dime, but I am more than willing to work if I do end up going.

    In any case, if I do not go, I will be more than happy to handle logistics. I can gather information about who is going and when, what time their flight arrives, if they will be driving, where they will be staying, etc. Anything that helps coordination over there.
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    I would imagine that the con will negotiate special rates with the local hotels. I wish I could volunteer, but my summers are way too unpredictable right now to commit to something like that. If I do make it I'll help out how I can, and same if I don't make it out.
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    As much as I would love to go to this as HTL's first booth at a con. I like Sky unfortunately also have a very unpredictable summer schedule as well. However, I will gladly help wherever it is needed be it media creation or logistics.
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    I am volunteering as well. My summers are actually rather free, what with being a teacher and all. I am planning a trip to go back home to Maine next summer so I would need to find out if I am picked to go so I can plan accordingly. I've also been to a number of cons so I've got a pretty solid idea of how they work which might also be a big help. I might also be convinced to work on another cosplay outfit as well.
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    Flights are going to be a bit tough to look at since people are going to be flying from all over. Also, given that it is just under a year away you can't even start looking at flights that far out. I know when I flew out to CA before I flew into San Jose and there is a train that can take you from there to San Francisco and of course as I try and look at the website to find out how much it will be I am getting a mess of errors. When I took the train from Mountain View to San Jose or Mountain View to San Francisco it wasn't that expensive, maybe $10 but that was also in 2006 so it is possible fares have gone up. Flights from Denver to San Francisco look to be around $300ish right now but that will change. When I am planning travel I use either bing.com/travel or google.com/travel and they have a prediction calculation to say wait or buy that fares might change. I just check it everyday and usually end up getting a good deal.


    One thing that might be nice is if people are going to be flying in around the same time to plan to share taxis or rentals cars (I have AAA which gives really great prices on rentals and since I'm over 25 I don't have to pay an arm and a leg to rent one) to get us around. That being said as well I don't know how much driving we are really going to want to do, but we will probably have to wait and find out where exactly the event is going to be held. I can't check out prices until we get closer.

    The same thing can be said with the flights when it comes to hotels, it really depends on where the con is being held. I just went to hotels.com and did a quick search. It looks like there is one around $96 a night going all the way up. Personally I figure about $130ish a night on hotels, after some bad experiences I go for a little more expensive just in case. We could also plan on sharing and splitting hotel cost.
    One of the hotels I was just looking at that I think looks nice would run about $405 for 3 nights plus taxes and fees. The con is Saturday and Sunday, thus I was figuring getting in Friday and leaving Monday. It also looks like booking flight and hotel might be around $800, but I would check separately even still.

    For taxi costs I found this on this website http://www.taxifarefinder.com/info.php?city=SF
    Once again it is all going to depend on where the con is going to be held.

    Metered Rates
    • $3.50 for the first 1/5 mile
    • $0.55 each additional 1/5 mile
    • $0.55 per minute of waiting time
    • $2.00 for airport surcharge
    • No Luggage Surcharge
    • Passenger Pays Bridge Toll(s)
    I would say if you live in the US than you are looking at around $800-$1000 for the trip. Hope this helps!
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    thanks for that! While like you said we won't really know costs and such till we get closer, it at least gives a estimate to save and budget for.

    yeah, I have AAA as well, but boy is it expensive, like you said, when you aren't 25 :( Hell, sometimes you can't even rent one. I don't see us doing a ton of driving, but it still would be good to either A. Have a car, or B. a solid taxi service that we can rely on for car pool to save money.


    Hopefully since we have a big ticket with the con, they can score us hotel deals, deals on flights, or packages since we will be working there and not just showing up to look around it. Unlikely, but it would be nice :p
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    Thanks Amal, that information is really useful, especially the taxi stuff, I hadn't even thought about transport on the ground!

    We don't seem to have a massive influx of volunteers though, I suppose it makes the choosing people process kinda easy xD

    I'll poke around to see who else would be interested, perhaps not many have seen the thread yet. I think @Clarissant might be able to make it down though?
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    I think that this will receive more traffic once a few things happen on HTL. HTL is pretty much dead at the moment, and so while a few of us pushed this really hard, there are only a few of us. On top of that, sadly, there are probably people on HTL who don't agree with this kind of thing for different reasons. Still though, fewer volunteers does make things easier in terms of picking workers :p
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    I'd've been glad to be there, but holy hell, my summers are always unpredictable, and getting a US visa for a Russian citizen is kinda haemorrhoid-like. I'll still try to do my part with helping any prep work, though, as I'm sure there's a crapload to do.
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    I think planning this far out will be difficult, since a lot of people don't have their whole year planned out most of the time. XD Around April or May I should know what my personal summer will be like, whether I'll be going to grad school or if I'll be working. If I get an airline job, that will make my decision super-easy. Lol. Perhaps you can give out passes to people who can commit now, and if you still have some later and people confirm they *can* go, you can give them out at that time. Just a thought.

    I don't know if we'll need rental cars, from what I understand, SF has a good public transportation system. I can ask kihten for more info since she lives there. If we rent a car, we'll have other costs like parking and such...so it might be best to look into public transportation options.

    As for trains, I wouldn't recommend it long-range. It takes forever to get anywhere, and Amtrak often has tickets that are comparable to airline fares...so, honestly, why would you even want to take the train? Maybe if it's cheaper to take a train in from a nearby airport than to fly direct into the airport, but SF is a major airport for many airlines, and it's bigger than any of the airports in surrounding cities, so it might be cheaper to just fly there.

    I just looked up fares on Southwest as far out as I can go, fares from Denver to SF (a good median distance average), and they're anywhere from $146 to $257 one-way, depending on the time of day. I guarantee you that Southwest will have a sale between now and then, so if you can catch tickets during one of those, you will get the best deal you possibly can. If Southwest doesn't fly from your local airport, I'd advise watching the websites of other airlines as well as travel sites, because often sales will not show up on the travel sites, but only on the airline's website.
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    I volunteer to go and represent HTL. I live about an hour and a half away from the SF and I really want to attend.
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    Her point was to give a possible estimate so people can at least start to budget some as soon as possible. It's not going to be accurate until we get closer yes, but it doesn't hurt to have a bar set at least for now. Yes, most don't plan their year out, but that doesn't mean we can't have something to gauge what we might need to go there. It can't hurt to have a little something in advanced :p

    Public transportation, while much cheaper and accessabke, is not as flexible as having our own ride(s). If we miss the pick up time or can't get there in time, we are stuck. Having our own transportation gives us that freedom so that we don't have to worry about such things. Yes, it is more expensive, but some of us could pitch in more to do that. I know I would. Plus, what if people want to explore the town and such, but not have to deal with the wait for public transportation and such. Not knocking it, just sayin it could be rather useful.


    Like you said, flights aren't really planned that far out, but it doesn't hurt to have a few numbers to gauge ballpark prices ya know? something like this will be costly, even if we are given tickets for for the con, still a hefty price to go. People who want to go should have something they can set their sights on to start saving for or in the near future. Those that want to anyways. In the end everyone is going to have to do their homework for what works best for them.
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