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I feel very sorry for people in other galaxy after synthesis ending.

Discussion in 'Mass Effect 3 General Discussion' started by gnstmdwjd, May 29, 2012.

  1. gnstmdwjd Member

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    (sarcasm and speculation)

    Did you notice that solders in Earth don't cheer in Synthesis ending even if building are not destroyed? But solders in Earth do cheer in 'good' control ending and 'good' destroy ending.

    Why don't they cheer when Reaper leave in Synthesis ending?

    Only possible answer is that these solders were 'transformed' into something that don't think and feel as they did before Synthesis ending.

    So, What did they become after all? Synthesis is Catalyst's favorite 'solution'. And he is Reaper king(according to him). And It seems that Reaper also don't want to kill these 'transformed' solders anymore in Synthesis ending(Reaper ships just leave).

    In conclusion : these solders became some kinds of Reaper(husk?) in Synthesis ending. Thus, whole the Milky Way galaxy became some kinds of Reaper in Synthesis ending. Victorious and Uplifting!!! (for Reaper)

    Now, What will Reaper(and whole galaxy) do after Synthesis ending?

    Catalyst say that he and his Reaper protect organic life from 'Bad AI' or something.

    Thus, they should do their job in other galaxy since there are a lot of other galaxy after all; Why should our galaxy so special to Reaper and their king?

    But in this time, whole the Milky Way galaxy is now Reaper war-machine, since whole life-forms are now small Reaper(or Reaper's cattles).

    I can imagine that all planets in the Milky Way galaxy will become Giant-Reaper processing ship in Synthesis ending. People will build Reaper 'processing' facilities and walk into these slaughterhouse to become 'super' Reaper(Reaper ships) by their own. From now on, Whole galaxy 'unite' under Reaper to invade other galaxy!!! Victorious and Uplifting!!! (for Reaper).

    Now, vastly reinforced Reaper armada can invade other galaxy; for example, they can reach Andromeda Galaxy within 400 years. Unfortunately, people in other galaxy don't know about Reaper. therefore, Reaper can secretly indoctrinate organic life in other galaxy and hack their AI to fulfill their prophecy "Creation will always rebel against their Creator"

    So, they can instigate whole civil war in other galaxy and conquer them by dividing them. Once they conquer other galaxy, they can set their trap - relay, citadel and so on - and continue their genocide('cycle') until other 'Shepard' in other galaxy will choose 'synthesis' solution for Reaper.

    I feel very sorry for people in other galaxy after synthesis ending. "prepare yourself for the arrival"

    Synthesis ending = Reaper's complete, total, ultimate victory. I suspect that Bioware was indoctrinated by Reaper!!!
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  2. Turambar Elite Member

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    "Thematically abhorrent" is how I like to describe the endings - synthesis most of all. Without anyone having a say in the matter, including species that weren't even 'uplifted' at the time of the war, Shepard turns them all into some kind of half machine, half organic horror. Don't know about you, but I'd be pretty pissed off if one day I woke up and I'd been changed like that.
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  3. Metal Rain Elite Member

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    Honestly, this is how i see Organic evolution as opposed to AI evolution.

    Organic---->--->-->->>{Singularity}<<-<--<---<----AI

    Organic<<-<--<---<----AI{Singularity}Organic---->--->-->->>AI

    Not the best illustration of what i mean but i think you can understand.
    People may not like it but there is a popular sub culture out there called Transhumanism which entitles the end of aging, reaching a level of conscious far beyond the one we reside in at the moment. Becoming Immortals if you will.

    On the other hand as i see AI is the same but with the difference of becoming individuals or becoming conscious or aware or even yet becoming alive, The similarity ends there as AI will become almost organic or even godlike. The organic will undergo the same transformation but eventually becoming Synthetic. There is a singularity for both after that the processing power and duplication rate will be unfathomable to us.

    In synthesis ending you become the singularity, but as time goes on, evolution will still make changes, mutations. Come on, Evolution almost demands it.

    Im not making a case for it, but i can see where the ending was heading. Primitive life will still evolve, if you don't think so, then all theories of how life came to be is wrong, from nothing to something.
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  4. Noelemahc Deputy Editor
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    Actually, Transhumanism is mentioned in the game in regard to the question of synthetics vs organics. Shepard and EDI can have a lengthy discussion on what counts as true transhumanism and how Salarians are the only race in the galaxy which accept actual transSalarianism as acceptable, wherein humans and quarians, while inspiredly playing around with cybernetic implants, never go actually transhuman or transquarian outside of isolated technofetishist cases - their brains remain purely organic.

    It's the same one where she points out that Shepard's brain is untainted by any Cerberus implants, further trying to strengthen the player's resolve that he/she isn't a clone, stand-in or zombie created by Cerberus. Still doesn't prevent Sheppy Shep's existentialist crisis on Cronos Station, though. Then again, Tali's passive-agressive reaction to it it well worth it =)
    "You're real. Real... and mine."

    But I digress. The Unofficial Ending Slides so popular on the BSN actually paint a technoorganic nightmare in the Synthesis ending, by imagining a "half-past-Tuesday" future (IIRC it fast-forwards a month for the epilogues) where humans can access the Extranet with their minds... and FEEL the Reapers. Talk to them digitally. And it's handled so geniusly and matter-of-factly that you feel really really afraid.
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    Have you got a link to those slides? Somehow I don't think I've actually managed to see them!
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    All of the explosions in the ending only affect our galaxy. It doesnt stop the singularity either no matter what anyone ever tells you. Chances are life in other galaxies will have the same problems we will. Therefore there would be organics there and synthetics there etc etc.

    Synthesis solves NOTHING.
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  7. Noelemahc Deputy Editor
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    @Turambar, clickety-click. They are constantly in flux, being updated regularly, however, so I cannot promise the endings I've read a month ago are still in.
    EDIT: They are. I'm also suddenly painfully aware how LITTLE they resolve compared to the endings I wrote. Except that mine still aren't finished. Damn. This should motivate me to go-- ah, I have to work. I'm at work. I'm rambling. Never mind.
    Why, did you think the Reapers only work in our galaxy? Hell naw, they got franchises all over the Multiverse over the last 2.7 billion years. BTW, funny coinkidink - only two objects date back that far. The Leviathan of Dis and the abandoned palace on that one planet where you find the Library of Asha. Makes you wonder things.
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  8. Turambar Elite Member

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    Thank you kindly sir, I will peruse them now.

    Edit: Ah yes, I have actually seen those and you're right - they don't really solve everything super well. I'm also not so keen on the way they're presented (comm chatter from a month afterwards, etc.). More resolution than we got from ME3 though, so there's that.
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    It would be hard to have less resolution than Mass Effect 3 tbh.
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  10. Metal Rain Elite Member

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    It would of been better for me if Reapers came from another Dimension, im a strong believer in the Multiverse, it would leave the game open for another title, but would only work if the current game had been wrapped up nicely.
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    That's what Farscape did in its "suspiciously similar to ME3's plot" storyline. Except, you know, its ending did not suck.
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    LMAo, really, i need to watch some Farscape then, Science is proving Multidimensional Theories right, so its really interesting.
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    Unfortunately for you, the plot I'm referring to happens in the post-series-end plot-wrapping-up comic books. But the main series does contain quite a few Star-Trek-like alternate universe episodes (and the comics follow the tradition).

    You should watch Farscape anyway, it's one of the Big Influences On Mass Effect and a kickass series in its own right.
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    Ill fire up the Netflix and see if its on there, Mass Effect has left me empty, i need something to fill my Sci Fi needs.... till Prometheus (y)

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