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Discussion in 'Mass Effect 3 General Discussion' started by shephard987, Mar 22, 2012.
Resume the conversation as it was going.
Hold the Line
We need that post that the PR guy posted in the BSN here, it was a step by step account of what they're doing, its invaluable. Anyone got it saved?
One of the most insightful post I've read on these forums since this 'ME3 ending' controversy began has been this one from a user named atghunter. I shall quote him:
Soon afterwards, atghunter commented again.
Then "Casey Hudson" released his second statement.
Here’s atghunters analysis of that:
Here is atghunter's analysis of that:
At which point there was a rash of, "Thank you for talking to us like human beings" and "I feel bad for you Jarrett" comments.
atghunter replied to him:
Even atghunter and myself didn't exactly see eye to eye on the situation.
atghunter's reply to my post about Jarrett
My reply back to atghunter
It's all good.
Next we have a post by Gexora that analyzes Jarrett Lee's involvement.
atghunter's post on Jarrett Lee's involvement.
Former military officer, KeldoreKatern, offers his analysis of this situation
Redknight38's suggestions for the 'ReTake' movement
cokohpuffs41 financial analysis of EA/Bioware
Some members have been asking for "leaders" of the movement. Here's atghunter's take on that.
Then there was the “twitter fiasco” where a Bioware employee accidentally posted, “At this time we have no plans to change the ending.” Obviously the forums exploded and the post was removed from both social media sites and a new message was put in its place.
Here’s atghunter’s analysis of that social media faux pas.
Turns out Amazon.com is taking open box returns of ME3 – 13 days after release. Here’s atghunter’s take on that.
There's also a civil protests for fans to mail back their N7 patches to Bioware. Details can be found here.
Another in-depth analysis of the situation, this time from Skaldfish.
March 21, 2012
Bioware community manager Jessica Merizan posting in the thread. ME3 customers like, Mister Mida, Nefelius,Mavaras, rfrombrazil, Darkeus, mattynuts and Doug M.
-Bioware co-founder Dr. Ray Muzyka releases a statement on ending controversy
-Forbes analyzes Muzyka's statement with a scintillating article.
-JohnnyG provides Dr. Muzyka with "constructive criticism".
-Forbes writer says 'Indoctrination Theory' is the easy way out, but not in a good way.
-Jessica Merizan says she's changing how she interacts with the community, which prompted a reply from mattynuts, which lead to a response from Jessica clarifying her stance and one from mattynuts clarifying his.
-Here's my response to Jessica's decision to cut off the community.
March 22, 2012
-Jessica decides NOT to cut off the community.
-New Forbes article saying that Bioware changing the endings is a good thing.
-Mass Effect Drone Volume 5: The Customer Is Always Right. Why Bioware Should Change Mass Effect 3′s Ending.
March 23, 2012
-After all hell breaks loose on the BSN, atghunter makes his first post on the moved thread.
March 24, 2012
-After further settling in, atghunter makes another post about a few things he hadn't brought up yet.
-atghunter also comments on Retake Mass Effect 3 reaching 50,000 people.
March 27, 2012
-atghunter on whether or not EA/BioWare should admit to their mistakes from a PR prospective.
More updates to come...
Official "Retake Mass Effect 3" Facebook page
Retake Mass Effect on Twitter
Retake Mass Effect - Child's Play ***Please Donate***
CNN video segment about ME3 controversy (starts @ 4:00)
BBC article on ME3
Mass Effect 3 debacle - Pre-release developer quotes
Poll About The Ending
'Official' Poll For Mass Effect 3 Ending DLC
[POLL] What exactly would you change with the ending?
EA/Bioware in Full PR Damage Control Mode ***Regularly UPDATED***
Retake Mass Effect Banner Templates
Mission Statement Thread
Retake Mass Effect Group on BSN ***Please Join***
Mass Effect 3 Resource Site with collection of statements and reports
Retake Mass Effect 3 Statistics
Retake Mass Effect on Youtube
Retake Mass Effect 3 Endings - Extranet Site - Resource Collector
Theorycrafting HUB (a forum for, among other games, ME3 theories and speculation)
Angry Joe's top 10 reasons to hate the ME3 ending
ME3 endings comparison
Jeremy Jahns - Mass Effect 3 Ending and Why We Hate It!
Reaping the Harvest of Poor Choices
The Commander Shepard song!
The Hold the Line video
Commander Shepard is still a jerk
Satire and Parody:
Mass Deffect 7 Shepard's Reaction
The Animal House ending
The World Reacts to the Mass Effect 3 Ending
Mass Effect 3 - The Controversial Ending
Articles for Reading:
A Logical Breakdown of Why the Mass Effect 3 Ending Makes No Sense
Mass Effect 3 Ending-Hatred: 5 Reasons The Fans Are Right
Why you enjoy art and the one problem with Mass Effect 3
Wow. Thanks for pulling all that together!
I wonder exactly what they consider are lies or abuse... were the BSN forums really getting that bad?
No problem, just a quick copy/paste.
Sure, the thread was a bit snarky at times but you just know Mr. Priestly was eager for a (good?) reason to close it. I'm surprised he didn't sooner considering posts that only say "hold the line" are so frequent that it is technically spam. It's impressive that the thread reached 400 pages.
Not surprised at the censorship, honestly. The BSN forums are owned and maintained by Bioware and we're speaking out against something Bioware made, in a way. Even if it's because we love it. They don't care if we love it. They care if we love it enough to give them our money, bottom line.Anyway, I'm just surprised they let "free speech" go on as long as they did in that PR thread. It was insightful and people can judge for themselves based on how EA/Bioware are reacting to the situation whether or not the company is following the OP's strategy. Lies and falsehoods. Sure.
I believe that. When protests start, companies on the reciving end of all the criticism will look for any reason to snuff out those on the opposing end, even if it is nitpicking at the few who happen to get out of hand or look for any technicality to shut them down like locking/removing threads from forums and pressuring charities to close
Brutal day. Any one else having a few thoughts bubbling up to the effect of "I hope SWTOR turns into such a sieve on EA that the whole company goes under"?
Definitely a rough day, and not getting any better for me, my favorite NCAA basketball team is about to lose.
I know I already cancelled my SWTOR account. I didn't want to either. But I did it to send a message. I don't want the whole company to go under. I want them to do right by their intellectual properties and treat their fans with respect and care.
Happy to see we have a home base.
Hold the Line.
Thread moved to node, sticky applied. I will clean up formatting a bit if you don't mind.
Has atg been notified of this site. He seems to be the motivator for us and it seems Retake needs some motivation.
I've been away for only 24 hours and oh my god things are moving fast. It's damn difficult to keep up. BioWare is putting their big-boy pants on, aren't they? Charities shut down, 400 page thread shut down, I mean gosh.
I wanted to keep my N7 patch, I really did. But now that BioWare has decided to start to get nasty then screw it, I'm sending it in with a four word letter: "I'M DISSAPOINTED IN YOU."
Think you can perhaps give the post with all the info to the thread starter?
I was waiting for Bachuck the OP to arrive since it was his post. I understand he has been notified of the site now.